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Senator Sues…. God?

Posted by agnosis on September 18, 2007

Ok, what the hell? I mean, really – what the hell?

Nebraska State Senator Ernie Chambers filed suit against God Friday, asking a court to order the Almighty and his followers to stop making terrorist threats.

The suit (.pdf), filed in a Nebraska district court, contends that God, along with his followers of all persuasions, “has made and continues to make terroristic threats of grave harm to innumerable persons.” Those threats are credible given God’s history, Chambers’ complaint says.

Chambers, in a fit of alliteration, also accuses God of causing “fearsome floods, egregious earthquakes, horrendous hurricanes, terrifying tornadoes, pestilential plagues, ferocious famines, devastating droughts, genocidal wars, birth defects, and the like.”

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I hope this is a joke, truly, because otherwise this is just an exercise in insanity. First of all, suing God? And second of all, expecting him to actually listen? Apparently someone hasn’t been reading his Old Testament lately.

Update: Here it is – apparently he’s filing this suit in an attempt to make a point about frivolous lawsuits. Thanks, Ernie – point taken. As you were.

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The Problem with Debunking

Posted by agnosis on September 13, 2007

I find myself annoyed with all the atheists, agnostics, and anti-religious folks who devote endless hours and countless words in their efforts to debunk religion (with Christianity being a primary focus, at least this side of the pond). The reason I’m annoyed isn’t so much the fact that they are debunking religion, so much as the fact of how much time and effort is being placed into this activitiy.

Being agnostic, I’ve no place for religion on my life anymore, and I do get annoyed with so much of the irrational, circular reasoning that religious folk use to sustain their illusionary belief systems. On rare occasion, when I think the circumstances warrant it, I’ll address a particular issue on a discussion board or blog, but I’ll speak my piece, state my opinion, and move on. I’m under no delusion that I’ll actually influence anyone’s stance – on the contrary, I’m confident that such discussions only serve to actually further regiment people in their own beliefs.

It is, for this reason, why I get annoyed with fervent attempts to debunk religion. I see entire blogs and discussion boards devoted to debunking religious beliefs, to shred the teachings of these systems, and to point out their fallacies and inconsistencies. Many of these websites also sport a fair bit of sarcasm and condescension, which really only serve to inflame religious readers’ ire and to reinforce anti-religious sentiment.

I have never seen a religious person read one of these sites and leave comment to the effect of, “Oh, you are so right. I’ve been so blind all this time. Thank you for shining the light of truth into my eyes. You’ve just changed my life for the better.” This never happens, I think, because of the way these debunking attempts are laid out with the aforementioned sarcasm and condescension. Sure, there are a few sites that discuss religious fallacies that treat their religious readers with respect, but they seem to be rather few and far between.

It just seems to me that these blogs and discussion boards that are so wholly dedicated to eradicating religion are wasting their time. Religion will always exist because there will always be people out there who seek to find meaning and truth outside of themselves, who are more willing to rely on myth and legend than they are on fact and rational thought. I’m annoyed by these sites because of the time and effort they waste on stirring up controversy and animosity that really only serves to further polarize religious and non-religious groups. I think that if atheists and agnostics would stop treating religious folk like complete idiots, it would go a lot further toward creating a harmonious environment for discussion that might actually cause more religionists to see just how flimsy their belief systems really are. Not everyone will convert away from religion, of course; as I said a moment ago, there will always be those who are unable to give up their beliefs in some divine entity. It just seems to me that creating hostility toward religionists is very counterproductive.

Does anyone think I’m wrong?

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Pronouncements of Doom

Posted by agnosis on June 27, 2007

Apparently, the Christian mission to share the Gospel gives them the right to toss tact to the wind. I can’t count the number of times I’ve heard a Christian tell someone point-blank that they’re going to hell. Talk about a great way to shut someone down and turn them off to your message immediately. Frankly, it’s disgusting how rude and obnoxious most Christians are as they go about trying to ‘convert’ others to their way of thinking. I don’t understand why they think that such an approach might work, yet the persistence of this technique indicates that Christians think such in-your-face tactics should not only work but that the truth of their message as conveyed by this approach should be blatantly self-evident to whoever their victim is that day. I guess it shouldn’t be surprising, then, that they are completely blind to the fact that the interpersonal doors of communication get slammed right in their face and anything else that’s said henceforth from such a dire pronouncement is ignored and disregarded as the rantings of a lunatic. Who wants to be a Christian when faced with that kind of antagonism and hostility? I sure don’t.

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